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Dave Cairns SVP of CBRE |Unlocking Urban Potential: Repurposing Office Spaces for Sustainable Development

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And I also played a lot of live stops, traveling to places like Europe and the World Series of Poker in Vegas. Worked very closely with them on a couple of things we’re tracking back in 2017 before the Pandemic. And I’ll give you an analogy from the travel industry. So that happened in travel before the pandemic.

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